[jambutty]

Originally Posted by entwisi

Not one biker gets on with anything other than knowing he is more vunerable than car drivers. thats why they concentrate on what they are doing.

To be against something because you don't like who's telling you it? thats not only childish but pathetic. If we go around instilling that sort of attitude in our children then we end up with the exact thing that you complain about. Ignorant, couldn't care less idiots, which way do you want it?

Jambutty, I know its not that we agree often but I'm with you all along re people who don't understand what the dip function of their headlights is for. However I would question what difference is it if its two bikes side by side or 1 car you should still not pull out!

I was only quoting what bikers on the radio were saying. I think that what they were trying to say is that their single headlight would get lost in the myriads of twin headlights of cars.

But I agree whether you see one headlight or two you still don’t pull out unless you want a few hundred pounds of metal sat on your lap.

As an ex-biker of the early sixties I can say that because the biker is more vulnerable s/he will be more careful. I know I was. Of course there will always be idiots but you can’t tar them all with the same brush because of the antics of the few.

In general bikers are better road users than a car driver.