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Old 29-02-2008, 09:17   #192
claytonender
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Re: "Silly Cow" Clr Britcliffe

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Originally Posted by Cyfr View Post
If you read it he says it simply needs looking at on a case by case basis. Personally I think elevate is a enormous waste of money. It costs so much more to demolish buildings only to rebuild them with lower quality materials which won't stand the test of time. It's much cheaper to simply completely redo the insides and repair the existing house.

I don't think its the right idea to stick with a party because of what they were like in 1955. In the same way that I don't think people should not vote for a party because of what they did in the 1980's. If you think New Labour are for the working man, you're rather misguided. The wealth gap is the biggest in 40 years. Both parties are gunning for the middle class, because that's where all the votes are.

We don't need another Thatcher, because times aren't as extreme, our economy isn't falling over, we're not at the mercy of unelected trade unions. People talk about Europe taking the sovereignty of parliament, well back before Thatcher the Unions were taking the sovereignty of parliament. Most of the workers didn't even want to strike, they were forced to.

How about when she allowed everyone to buy their OWN house by purchasing the council house they lived in for cheaper than market value? Is this not for the working man?

Is our country not reaping the benefits of her reforms? Have we not just had 16 years of uninterrupted economic growth? Are you not living remarkably better off than 30 years ago?

She did what was necessary to turn our country around, something Labour couldn't do whilst being crippled by the unions and it's socialist unworkable policy, which I remind you gave Thatcher her biggest landslide victory. You need a strong economy, because you can redistribute the wealth to those who need it. She wouldn't be needed in the current age, thats why Cameron isn't a Thatcherite.
I know that all your opinions are gained from reading etc, as you did not live throught he Thatcher years, I am speaking as one who did and was made redundant twice.

So what about the hugh profits the privatised industries (Tory Policy) are making? The ridculous increases in gas and electricity prices are hitting the most vunerable members of our society most.

It is a matter of opinion, whether Thatcher, did turn the country round - making 1000's loose their jobs was completely unacceptable. I hope you never get made redundant, but I can tell you that it makes feel worthless. Also what about the 'Lost Generation' of man and women, who never had a chance of a proper job when they left school - 12 months on YTS then assigned to the scrapeheap, because there was a new infulx of school leavers to fill the posts.

What about the link between pensions and wages that Thatcher abolished - this means that every pensioner in this country is being paid much less than they should be.

Speaking personally I am not living better off than I would have been 30 years ago.

We are still living with Thatcher's legacy - the way employers got used to treating people, is still with us.

Maybe you think that we should not have holiday pay, as a right - the Tories certainly didn't think we should.

The Tories will always look after their own as they always have. Cameron is no different.
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