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Old 23-03-2008, 15:22   #36
polly
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Re: So who do u tip??

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Originally Posted by Gareth View Post
Welcome to communism.

The question is ABSOLUTELY is the level of service better. That is how economics works.This is how the economy that you relate to works The free market dictates where people want to spend their money, and the darwinism takes care of those that don't provide good service. And those who don't wish to be part of the service industry reward mechanism are free to go get a job as a clerical worker for the government where service is not the greatest. Not always, some people lack the necessary skills or their home commitments are such that 9-5 hours of working are not practicable. This does not mean that others should take advantage of them. There is no God given law that says the service industry should be the end of the line

Should sales people be paid commissions? There probably is a good case for the abolition of sales based bonuses it would help to stop the needles spred of comercialism and give people the chance to concentrate on needs rather than wants, thereby ensuring a fairer society.Should a company that performs well pay its workers a bonus based on the profits of the company?Different concept altogether, Im surprised you dont see it. Do people work harder knowing that harder work results in more money? Not always, this statement has long been debated and of course their work fulfills needs other than money

The last time i went to ASDA, and it was a while ago, I was taken aback that I had to pack my own bags, and they didn't help me to my car with my groceries. That costs me two or three bucks from my change if the person goes to my car with me, I don't always but many older people do. If the 16 year old that does that can do it that 10 times an hour, he makes $30 per hour, on a 4 hour shift, he can make 60 quid even with the crappy exchange rate. He works 3 days a week after school, and a full day on Saturday, and he is taking home £300 a week. He has to work hard, and probably run back to the store but is making a tidy income for a kid. As a (fairly) fit and able person why would I want someone else to move my shopping?I am not that lazy and whilst I can do it I will. When I am old or infirm then I would hope that the store would have enough sense of humanity to do it for me without wanting me to pay extra, particularly given the p0rofits of Wal-Mart aka Asda

Eric, I get your point, and Canada and the US have much in common when it comes to the tipping mentality. It just isn't prevalent in the UK, as many people, like Polly, see it as charity. And thats ok, because, I would assume, wages are higher to compensate, and the food is more expensive because its built into the price of the food, in the instance of the eating establishment. I just think its uncivilised not to tip in the US or Canada if you understand the economics of the service industry in the US or Canada, and therefore the performance-based reward of staff results in better service. It is far more uncivilised not to pay a decent price for goods and services in the first place. We have to see how cheap prices result in someone somewhere being taken advantage of. It dosnt matter if it is the banana grower in Africa or the 16 year old in Accrington if something is dirt cheap someone somewhere4 is being exploited and you can be sure it wont be the CEO in America

That being said, my point still sticks, Tipping a La USA will never work in the UK. Amen
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