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andrewb · 07-05-2008, 09:20

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Originally Posted by Gayle

So I've actually been forced to read the Daily Telegraph - look what you're making me do!

And I found this information about how the Telegraph had come by their figures.

Council Tax: Band D Council Tax data for the year 2008/9 has been analysed and a star has been awarded to local authorities who have the lowest total council tax charge (i.e. including all precepts) i.e. the least expensive 25 per cent. The council tax data has been provided by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy (CIPFA) from the CIPFA Council Tax Demands and Precept Statistics.

Key measures:
Band D Council Tax for 2008/9
Increase in Band D Council Tax over the past year
Increase in Band D Council Tax over the last 10 years
The Council Tax Collection Rate - i.e. proportion of total council tax demands collected

So basically Cyfr - you're actually saying that not only is Graham Jones wrong for using the figures, the Telegraph is wrong for printing them and the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy is wrong for working out their figures in the first place.

That's a lot of people with a lot of experience that you're calling liers!

I pm'ed you about the other one because I didn't think people cared to read anymore, but if they do still care your latest post world my debunk my whole argument. So here goes..

What you have copy and pasted has nothing to do with either of the two articles mentioned thus far.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/...northwestC.xml which is used by the Labour leaflet. It has a comparison between average income of a constituency then compares it to band D council tax.
Ten most expensive areas for council tax - Telegraph which just has a list of the ten most expensive based on actual cost and nothing more

The article you pasted puts Hyndburn as (out of 407):

36th (higher number means more expensive) most expensive - not most expensive as Labour claim and still includes county council which takes 80% of tax
86th (higher number means council tax increase is less) for council tax increase over last 10 years (this is including county council which has gone up in HUGE amounts compared to Conservative run council

I have no issue with these numbers, I'm not calling them liars at all. The issue I have is in the article comparing to income because it is simply not representative of the demographic and is just being used in the Labour leaflet to win votes.