[garinda]

Originally Posted by andrewb

I didn't say that at all. Please try to stop confusing this with schemes in the eighties. They're not the same.

It's not included as a job when you're on the scheme, as you still recieve benefits. Even if it was, the scheme is once only, so over 10 years the statistics are pretty clear. It works.

You've supplied no evidence that this scheme is in anyway different from the ones tried in the eighties, nor have you specified exactly what work in the community the people will be doing, so we have no way of knowing if people's genuine jobs will be at risk because of this unpaid workforce.

I'd honestly love to say I thought they'd come up with something new to tackle this very real problem, but I don't think it is, nor would I consider it a tough enough approach.