[cashman]

am not a fan of community orders, to me they are a "soft" option, much better to make thieves repay what they have stolen, for other offenders a short sharp shock like 3 months detention as used to be, for all the bleeding hearts that don't agree, how many do they know who actually served it? i know quite a few n biggest percentage of em never went back, yes some carried on their career,but most are know ok, with families etc.