[accyderek]

As a person who works for a company that trades in many of the E.U countries which i do have to visit, i have seen first hand the benefits of E.U membership and the working of the free market that allows workers from the the States to move where there is work.

Germany and France have takken far more of these workers than the UK and most of those people have took the trouble to learn the host country mother tounge without state money. Mancie in his post is right about us British picking on different groups in the past to place all the woes of our country on, in the past it was the Irish, then the Carribean people who came here or rather invited here and given British passports, then then in our owntime the Asians, now its the people from easten Europe, from my own observations many of these people do not ask for handouts and anything that would be given the country from which they came has to repay to the Uk any costs under the treaties signed years ago.

We have to remember the days of the empire are gone, and as Declan so well put it, we are in a global ecomomy Britain cannot survive by itself, and neither should it, most of our energy comes from Europe and Europe is our biggest market that provides the financial stability in the city and markets, most europeans i come in contact with want Britain to be there in the driving seat of Europe pushing forward change and reform, Margaret Thatcher ( no euro lover) knew that this was the way forward for our country
and to be honest i think in Europe they liked her plain speaking.

The world today is tied into large trading blocks and we cannot be outside them, as for the original thread whenever we here of money to be given to this or that group we all get up in arms about it thinking were losing out, Margaret was mentioning asian people given interperters and it not working but we are not on about asian people who dont come from any european country? i do know for a fact that Europe has given alot of money to help depressed areas of the UK and to help the victims of floods of late, and to provide alternative employment in the job sectors that were run down eg shipbuilding and the mines, now in all other E.U countries that money would go stright to those affected but the UK got an opt out in the Rome treaty that means it goes stright to Uk treasury and they decide who will or not get it, this is hardly fault of Europe.

We hear in the media about migrants getting this and that help, but in truth you will find there is very little truth in it, all it does is stroke up the fires of resentment in many people and even hatred and violence against those same people by groups of idiots who need a target rather than do something usefull with their lives, all that must be condemned as its not the British way, we would deplore it if our people were so demonised in other countries as a small section of the media do to them in this country.

Many people from my own firm work as i stated in other european countries, and people from their who have left to seek work are now returning as their infrastructure is being built up, we must give them credit for getting up moving and wanting to better their lives, and i can tell you they have nothing but respect for the Uk and want nothing but to work and support their families, rather than most of our people who prefer to live on the dole and do nothing