[derekgas]

There have always been parents who didnt give too hoots where thier kids are, I grew up with some, but there were enough detterents around to still keep many wayward kids in line, the parents also had a bit of respect for the police, I disagree that it is all down to the parents, how can it be when parents have less control than they did in years gone by, give some control back to parents, teachers, the police and as an afterthought, the prisons. Borstal, birch, tough prisons, hanging! all sadly missed in my opinion.