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Acrylic-bob · 29-05-2004, 15:47

Sorry mate, but the whole point of the discussion is that it does not really matter one way or another. The majority will do what the majority want to do, whatever anyone else thinks or feels or indeed how they choose to use or misuse their vote.

The position of Abstention is a long and honoured tradition and one I now prefer to adopt because I know from years of experience that the situation is hopeless and the only thing a sane, concerned person can do, is cause a little trouble or offer a metaphorical slap in the face now and then.

I used to be young and full of idealistic zeal. I used to think that the solution to the country's ills lay, in part, through the ballot box, but then I lived through Wilson, Douglas-Hulme, Heath, Callaghan, Thatcher and now Blair. I listened as they all made the same sort of promises and the same sorts of lies to cover their incompetence, arrogance, and in some cases sheer greed and lust for power and influence. And I watched as the country got steadily worse and worse until it is hardly recognisable now as the country I grew up in. My Country, a place I was proud to call Home, has been stolen, not just from me, which is bad enough, but from all of us, which is worse, and from generations of Englishmen yet unborn, which is unforgivable. And the truly terrible thing is that we are all complicit in this theft. We have turned our back, and averted our gaze while the smirking simpletons who inhabit municipal offices throughout the country have been hard at work amking certain that the things that made this land worth fighting and dying for have been legislated against, erased, bulldozed into the ground and sold abroad. A land that is famed abroad for it's love of tradition but where tradition is either sneered at or is at best ignored. A land that in cultural terms is now well on it's way to becoming the 51st state of the American Union and in terms of politics is well on it's way to sucumbing to what Naploeon, Kaiser Willhelm and Hitler intended for Europe. It is perhaps salutory to speculate whether the Accrington Pals would be so eager to sacrifice their lives for the defence of England if they could see the state of the country now.

I appear to have 'gone off on one'. Sorry. It has been a long and difficult day. I need some of the solace that can only be found at the bottom of a Gin Bottle.

29-05-2004, 15:47	#22
Acrylic-bob God Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tragic Conn Posts: 4,007 Blog Entries: 15 Liked: 3 times Rep Power: 2473	Re: postal votes Sorry mate, but the whole point of the discussion is that it does not really matter one way or another. The majority will do what the majority want to do, whatever anyone else thinks or feels or indeed how they choose to use or misuse their vote. The position of Abstention is a long and honoured tradition and one I now prefer to adopt because I know from years of experience that the situation is hopeless and the only thing a sane, concerned person can do, is cause a little trouble or offer a metaphorical slap in the face now and then. I used to be young and full of idealistic zeal. I used to think that the solution to the country's ills lay, in part, through the ballot box, but then I lived through Wilson, Douglas-Hulme, Heath, Callaghan, Thatcher and now Blair. I listened as they all made the same sort of promises and the same sorts of lies to cover their incompetence, arrogance, and in some cases sheer greed and lust for power and influence. And I watched as the country got steadily worse and worse until it is hardly recognisable now as the country I grew up in. My Country, a place I was proud to call Home, has been stolen, not just from me, which is bad enough, but from all of us, which is worse, and from generations of Englishmen yet unborn, which is unforgivable. And the truly terrible thing is that we are all complicit in this theft. We have turned our back, and averted our gaze while the smirking simpletons who inhabit municipal offices throughout the country have been hard at work amking certain that the things that made this land worth fighting and dying for have been legislated against, erased, bulldozed into the ground and sold abroad. A land that is famed abroad for it's love of tradition but where tradition is either sneered at or is at best ignored. A land that in cultural terms is now well on it's way to becoming the 51st state of the American Union and in terms of politics is well on it's way to sucumbing to what Naploeon, Kaiser Willhelm and Hitler intended for Europe. It is perhaps salutory to speculate whether the Accrington Pals would be so eager to sacrifice their lives for the defence of England if they could see the state of the country now. I appear to have 'gone off on one'. Sorry. It has been a long and difficult day. I need some of the solace that can only be found at the bottom of a Gin Bottle.