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Originally Posted by Eric

I thought that Mrs. God is the church; the bride of christ Maybe the heavenly couple should have practised birth control.

Ah but then you're getting into the debate about the Trinity. You see I believe that God is the Father and Jesus Christ is is son, ie two different people. However, even having said that, this 'bride of Christ' idea is only an invention in later years.

Originally Posted by jambutty

Did this fall from grace come before, during or after Adam and Eve had begat their brood?

before. There was only Adm and Eve when they took up apple eating - yes I know it wasn't necessarily an apple, it was 'a fruit'.