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Jubbut-uk · 03-12-2008, 22:00

It won't matter what colour the seats are if people sit in them.

And depending how much room in the stand the seats take up you could very well all end up sat down in the Clayton end.
You cannot stand up in a seated area--licensing authorities don't like it and they can financially punish clubs that don't take action to stop persistant standing (by reducing capacity in areas/stands).

I can see this issue creating a lot of friction with stewards and ultimately leading to the matches being fully policed, which costs a LOT of money (the police get double time for football matches and they won't officially police matches with a handful of hats- they put in numerous teams inside and outside with supervisors (sergeants and inspectors) which costs an awful lot).

Also, you cannot put seats up the side of a standing terrace area for evacuation purposes.
Imagine a large body of people moving sidewards to evacuate and being compressed into filtering through obstacles (narrow rows of seating)... a surge could turn into a crush.
You just can't mix standing and sitting supporters in the same area. Aside from the blocking of seated view, people get sloshed and fall over the seats in front of them, onto the people sat down.

Don't forget that if things aren't certified safe, people can't come in.
This might come as a shock, but where stadiums are concerned, crowd safety will come before a match being played in front of a crowd, in the eyes of the authorities.
If the powers that be mess up the seating and it isn't satisfactory, the local authorities could step in and instruct things to be changed, which costs money (and lots of it).
I can also see local authorites getting crabby if seats are covered up with flags and people are stood up nearby, it defeats the object of having seats!

It would not make sense to me to put seats in the Whinney Hill terrace.
It is old and would be redeveloped in future, should cash become available. Putting new seats into an area that is likely to be ripped down in future would not make financial sense, it is a waste of cash.
Eric Whalley and his band of merry men would be mad to put seats in the Whinney Hill terrace.

It's going to have to be the Clayton Terrace where the seats go and people are going to have to sit in them.
The new stand may as well have the new seating area.
People aren't going to like it, but as has been said, when you enter the Football League, you agree to their rules like everyone else has to.

03-12-2008, 22:00	#109
Jubbut-uk Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1 Liked: 0 times Rep Power: 0	Re: Please Read; The Seats The Facts!! It won't matter what colour the seats are if people sit in them. And depending how much room in the stand the seats take up you could very well all end up sat down in the Clayton end. You cannot stand up in a seated area--licensing authorities don't like it and they can financially punish clubs that don't take action to stop persistant standing (by reducing capacity in areas/stands). I can see this issue creating a lot of friction with stewards and ultimately leading to the matches being fully policed, which costs a LOT of money (the police get double time for football matches and they won't officially police matches with a handful of hats- they put in numerous teams inside and outside with supervisors (sergeants and inspectors) which costs an awful lot). Also, you cannot put seats up the side of a standing terrace area for evacuation purposes. Imagine a large body of people moving sidewards to evacuate and being compressed into filtering through obstacles (narrow rows of seating)... a surge could turn into a crush. You just can't mix standing and sitting supporters in the same area. Aside from the blocking of seated view, people get sloshed and fall over the seats in front of them, onto the people sat down. Don't forget that if things aren't certified safe, people can't come in. This might come as a shock, but where stadiums are concerned, crowd safety will come before a match being played in front of a crowd, in the eyes of the authorities. If the powers that be mess up the seating and it isn't satisfactory, the local authorities could step in and instruct things to be changed, which costs money (and lots of it). I can also see local authorites getting crabby if seats are covered up with flags and people are stood up nearby, it defeats the object of having seats! It would not make sense to me to put seats in the Whinney Hill terrace. It is old and would be redeveloped in future, should cash become available. Putting new seats into an area that is likely to be ripped down in future would not make financial sense, it is a waste of cash. Eric Whalley and his band of merry men would be mad to put seats in the Whinney Hill terrace. It's going to have to be the Clayton Terrace where the seats go and people are going to have to sit in them. The new stand may as well have the new seating area. People aren't going to like it, but as has been said, when you enter the Football League, you agree to their rules like everyone else has to.