[magpie]

I guess the bottom line should be… if you can not afford the upkeep of a child then you should not have one: however that will never happen .There are some young girls out there who see having a child as an excuse not to work…. To get handouts… crisis loans and the all the other benefits:

So the government should not make it easy for them…. Food and clothes and kit should be standard issue: maybe that would cut it down a bit ( or a least make it cheaper for the tax paying people )