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Old 05-03-2009, 10:42   #47
Margaret Pilkington
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Re: guess what

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Originally Posted by blazey View Post
Obviously I can understand Lolly's position, I do come from a family in a similar situation.

I hate to perhaps be a little cold towards the predicaments of children, but everyone has the choice of whether to get pregnant and have children and if you choose to do that whilst not in a secure or well paying job then you can only really have yourself to blame really.

Sorry if perhaps that is a bit cold hearted, but there are thousands of teenagers at university who manage to not get themselves into these situations, its all about the choices you make.

If you struggle with the lifestyle that having children young puts you in then maybe you should think about that before you have sex.

Sex is 20 minutes of fun but children are a lifetime of commitment and responsibility. I might not have children either but I have a hell of a lot of debt and work to deal with and it seems to be that the more accessible education is to people the more it gets dubbed as some sort of easy option.

'get real Blazey' is a silly comment to make when the reality of it is that I make the decision every day to reject the womanly instinct towards reproduction and family life and I'll have to for many years to come if I want to make a success of myself and properly support a family. I accept that reality. Perhaps if more people accepted the reality of bringing up children then there wouldn't be so many kids ending up resorting to crime and accepting low qualities of life.

I don't feel sorry for anyone who struggles because they've got a child unless they're the victim of rape. If you don't like the consequences then don't have sex.

This post pays lip service to an understanding that you blatantly do not possess.
You infer that all people who have a baby are irresponsible(ok, in a later post you retract that somewhat).
From your own background, of which you have told us something in the past, you should have more compassion.
Circumstances change........you can be in a loving partnership one minute and widowed the next.
You can be in a good job one minute and made redundant the next.
You can be a victim of mental and physical abuse in a partnership.
You are right that babies are for life, and most of us have more life experience than you to know this.......and what life throws at us we have to cope with in the best way that we can....and sometimes that will be as a struggling single parent through no fault or choice of our own.
All this with a baby or child who was conceived whilst in better circumstances. Does this make you irresponsible. I don't think it does.
We all make our choices in life.......and we make them with the information that we have at the time.

Yes.... you will have debts when you leave Uni...but you aren't going to have the bailiffs chasing you for that money...like you would if you defaulted on other types of debt....you will have the knowledge that you won't have to pay a penny back until you earn over a certain threshold.
You made your choice to go to Uni, in the hope that this would give you a better life and future, but...it doesn't guarantee anything.

The fact that you 'don't give a toss' about appearing to be in an ivory tower says much about you as a human being.
As I previously said in post...I hope that you don't have the misfortune to suffer the kind of situation that Lolly is experiencing at the moment.
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