[onlyme]

I'm wondering what sort of responses the thread would have had if I, or a member other than Andrewb had started it.

Much as I admire the blinkered loyalty of some members on here (both labour and conservative), I think to justify actions such as the smear campaign is dangerous, whether they are made public or kept within the party.

If political parties could put as much effort into running the country rather than the playground behaviour they seem to love, maybe we'd have a country to be fully proud of