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Originally Posted by garinda

The expense system is flawed, and open to abuse, as we've witnessed, but let's not forget this is the system voted in place by the very politicans who have used it.

Let's also not forget that the majority of MPs have fought tooth and nail from their expenses being made public, under the ludicrous claim that it would be a threat to their security.

Some of what's gone on isn't just morally questionable, it's legally questionable fraud.

On the point that everyone would milk the system, given the flawed nature of the system, and human greed.

Some would, some wouldn't.

You can't put through an claim for 'integrity'.

Happily for me I know, and have known, many people who would never claim for anything they weren't entitled to, because they would consider it stealing.

If the system's flawed change it.

Don't apologise for it, after it's been made public.

There are still a few politicians who deserve the courtesy title 'The Right Honourable Member', and happily the MP for Hyndburn appears to be one of them.

I don't have a problem with anything you've said Rindi, no right minded person would, but as you say not all MPs should be tarred with the same brush there are still some honourable members, but I'm not sure how many