[WillowTheWhisp]

I agree that a debate is more interesting if we have opposing points of view but this discussion is also interesting because although people are in agreement with the basic idea they have brought up different points which we may not otherwise have known (such as the links I mentioned earlier) I have learned something from those so for that reason alone I would say this thread is worthwhile.

At one stage I was asked why I had started a new thread on a subject which had been mentioned in another thread, yet at the same time people are criticised for thread wandering and therefore encouraged to start new threads. If the very existence of some new threads is criticised by members of longstanding surely that would discourage people from starting new threads and the website would lose its point.

Anyway I'm off on the second stage of my holiday soon and if there's anything more interesting been added here when I get back I'll probably read it and say something else then too.