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entwisi · 25-06-2009, 06:37

woah!!

accidents are by their nature very random, there are accidents where being in a car is the reason you did not get away. when I was at college a girl I knew died on hassy old road with 3 friends because after couldn't get out and the car set on fire......

Often bikers are thrown well clear of the mechanical mayhem that happens.

Thats all before we get to the point of actually avoiding the accident in the first place due to the smallness and performance available( nip between cars instead of smacking into them, acceleration and braking that means we can genuinely get out the way of the thing in the first place plus and here is probably the biggest of them all...... MUCH better roadcraft than the vast majority of car drivers. Bikers on the whole spend far more time reviewing their riding and trying to improve it than car drivers.

I would venture to say that if you took all cars off the roads the number of bikers killed would drop to a fraction of what it is.. So therefore who is the danger in this? What is really required is better and more regular testing of drivers. The standard of driving I see every single day is distgusting. People reading maps, papers, combing hair, doing makeup, shaving, holding animated conversations with passengers, texting, none of which you can do whilst riding a bike.

until the government get serious about road safety and introduce regular ( 5 years IMHO) testing of all drivers for everything from eyesight to driving capability including Motorways we will continue to have unfortunate and devastating accidents like yesterday.

My own accident where my L1 vertibrae was smashed ( so I speak from experience here)

" oh, the lights went Amber and as he's a biker and they always go through on Amber I accelerated to nip through after him! " ........ Only thing was I had stopped as you should do if you can do it safely( which I did comfortably)

so just where in that was my bike 'dangerous'? The dangerous thing is the fleshy lump behind the wheel of the car.

Ban Bikes? nope..... They provide far too much entertainment, are much more environmentally friendly and offer people a choice....

25-06-2009, 06:37	#16
entwisi God Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Up Bash Posts: 7,827 Blog Entries: 3 Liked: 44 times Rep Power: 4390	Re: 6:25 M66 south shut by Bury woah!! accidents are by their nature very random, there are accidents where being in a car is the reason you did not get away. when I was at college a girl I knew died on hassy old road with 3 friends because after couldn't get out and the car set on fire...... Often bikers are thrown well clear of the mechanical mayhem that happens. Thats all before we get to the point of actually avoiding the accident in the first place due to the smallness and performance available( nip between cars instead of smacking into them, acceleration and braking that means we can genuinely get out the way of the thing in the first place plus and here is probably the biggest of them all...... MUCH better roadcraft than the vast majority of car drivers. Bikers on the whole spend far more time reviewing their riding and trying to improve it than car drivers. I would venture to say that if you took all cars off the roads the number of bikers killed would drop to a fraction of what it is.. So therefore who is the danger in this? What is really required is better and more regular testing of drivers. The standard of driving I see every single day is distgusting. People reading maps, papers, combing hair, doing makeup, shaving, holding animated conversations with passengers, texting, none of which you can do whilst riding a bike. until the government get serious about road safety and introduce regular ( 5 years IMHO) testing of all drivers for everything from eyesight to driving capability including Motorways we will continue to have unfortunate and devastating accidents like yesterday. My own accident where my L1 vertibrae was smashed ( so I speak from experience here) " oh, the lights went Amber and as he's a biker and they always go through on Amber I accelerated to nip through after him! " ........ Only thing was I had stopped as you should do if you can do it safely( which I did comfortably) so just where in that was my bike 'dangerous'? The dangerous thing is the fleshy lump behind the wheel of the car. Ban Bikes? nope..... They provide far too much entertainment, are much more environmentally friendly and offer people a choice.... __________________ Ian Technical God, No 1 Geek And Linux Guru Have you seen my Flickr pictures?