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Originally Posted by cashman
i think thats pathetic, speak to landlords n stewards about how many non smokers they have gained since the ban,ask em if they have lost any trade? i have -suggest you do the same n then ya may not be as sanctamonious,a compromise to this ban, that has drove many to wall would be far better.
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I think it has already been said that some do not go to pubs because of the cost of drinking in them, the cost of a pint is now way more than many wish to spend & as they had to find other entertainment while pubs were not smoke free then many are not going to change their ways.
I would never go to a pub because of the smoky atmosphere, I do on occasion go now - but not that often as I can neither afford he cost nor the effects of a night out drinking.
Have I said that there should not be any compromise? NO.
I have merely put across the view that now that smoking has been banned in pubs, they are equally open to everyone instead of just those that like to breath you old smoke.
It seems that it is you smokers that are getting all defensive about your rants in wanting to smoke in pubs, you seem to be forgetting about the people that do not want to breath your smoke.
I agree that there should be better facilities, such as smoking rooms (with adequate ventilation etc) or outside facilities with roofs.
I too think the ban on smoking inside any structure that has 3 sides on it is also as pathetic as you may think, it is entirely unfair especially when that structure's purpose is for smoking in.
A bus stop on the other hand is not designed as such as it can also contain non smokers, yet they always seem to be complained about when a smoker is asked not to smoke there.
By all means campaign for better facilities that allow you to smoke, changes in the law that allow publicans etc to put up cheap & effective facilities.
But I do not see in any way a return to smoking inside the pubs themselves and thats not gloating or being sanctimonious, its merely considering the effects of smoking on others.