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Originally Posted by Life

Hi All.

Take time out from ranting at me and look back 20 years......children did not get cancer.

Of course they did .. studies to improve cures have been going on since the early 1900's.

I said no to all vaccinations for all four of my children, I looked the idiot nurses and doctors in the eye and said NO, do not touch my child with any chemical concoction or I will sue the living daylights out of you.

You could see the vacant expression on their little faces and wanting to put me up as a child abuser or some similar garbage.

I suspect your feelings were not put with any sort of calm attitude Life.



My children are never ill save for the normal stuff, they are highly intelligent, and their hearts are wide open...are yours?

And long may they continue to be safe from any ill health. Possibly because many of our children are being immunised against the diseases that are either maimed or would have killed them, but, eh ... leave it to eveyone else then ! Look around any grave yards in our country and the young people that died of smallpox, polio, diptheria, scarlet fever,... and yes, even measles. That is not happening now ... mmm, why I wonder.

if you want proof that the medical staff know more than they tell you, yet are happy to promote the vaccinations look at the fact that one third of the nurses have refused the vaccination for themselves, and 41% of the doctors the same.

My daughter, as a practice nurse, has been responsible for injecting 100's of young people over the last few months with all these 'terrible chemicals' without any adverse side effects to them. She has administered it herself to her own daughter, and that is good enough for me. Naturally, her studies, seminars and access to information on this vaccine has been of the highest professional nature and I know she will have taken all the knowledge gathered with great seriousness before embarking on this programme.


Cancer is a consequence of the vaccinations you had when you were children, and all those you have had since, take responsibility for your own being and cease in this child like behavior handing over total sovereignty of your body and mind to the elite bankers.

Think you need a little more substantial proof on this statement Life. True that some cancer rates are growing, but due to other factors in the environment and social acceptence .. e.g. more acceptance that our children live in different times now and will be embarking on sexual activities earlier that 50 years ago.

GROW UP AND REMEMBER YOU ARE FREE TO BE YOU

Of course you are, and there are no plans to make any vaccinations mandatory ...everyone still has that choice to decide.

Strange a larger proportion of us are now expected to live to at least 100... mmm .. I wonder why ?

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I agree Kate, but this vaccination will not remove the need for cervical smears as it does not protect against 30% of HPV viruses.....so the girls now being vaccinated will still have to go for regular smears.......as for smears, many women fail to attend for them....and when some abnormality is found, they also fail to attend for investigation(colposcopy) and treatment.......this is still going to be the case.
And if you are set on a vaccination program then why vaccinate only girls? Is it because only girls will get the Cervical cancer? Boys carry and pass on the virus, so why not vaccinate them too.

Well, I can't disagree that we women have to take all the treatment Margaret ... doesn't seem fair does it !

Agree about the 30% .. but hey ... 70% 'aint that bad is it ? Trouble is, hope it doesn't make the girls complacent about having smear tests just because they think they are safe if they have received the vaccine. This needs eduction.

Personally, I think that the companies who produce the vaccine have done quite a bit of scaremongering.......In 2005, some 900 women died from Cancer of the cervix......and while any death from cancer is lamentable, this is not a huge number when you take the population size into account.
Wonder if you would be saying this if it were your daughter that contracted cancer of the cervix ... or that lovely grandchild of yours later in life.



I suppose I will be pilloried for my views...especially seeing as I worked in the field of Women's Health for a quarter of a century, but I prefer to research and exercise caution before accepting something that so called experts tell me.......

Unfortunately, in all walks of life .. we have to rely on experts in their field to pass on advice and knowledge.

My way of dealing with this kind of disease would(and has been) to educate women in taking responsibility for their own health, to postpone sexual activity(early sexual activity may be a factor in the number of women having positive smears, and the number of sexual partners may also have a part to play).......to use safer sexual practices, to go for their smears on a regular basis(however unpleasant this procedure is perceived to be) and to lobby their MP for the re-introduction of smears at a younger age.
Every woman who is sexually active is at risk....and so once sexual activity is begun women should be entitled to a smear test.

Ideally, would be great if we could now educate our children to refrain from what is a now sociable pastime ... unfortunately ... early sexual activity is here to stay it would appear, and don't think any turning back.

Yes, smear tests should be offered earlier ... I agree .. the Jane Goody case did help a little here.

My conclusion, however, that prevention rather than cure is a much smarter way to go about it.
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

The teacher in question told the 12 year old that the vaccination was going to protect her in case she got raped on her way home from school!
That cannot be right.
To tell a 12 year old this, especially as we are heading into the season of dark nights.

If a parent has decided that their child is not to have the vaccine, why should the teacher get away with scare tactics?

Well, the mind boggles at that Margaret ... silly woman. We don't really know though if this was taken out of context and just an addition to her diatribe. Teachers are not in a position to pontificate at the rights and wrongs of this vaccine, and should keep any opinions to themselves.

Ah well, that's my bit ... but respect everyone's right to make their own choices.