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Originally Posted by cashman
But surely if you are on it,when you don't agree with ratepayers money being used fer it, then it would look to many folk like you do? thats how i see it, n think its you thats being petty in that instance.
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Presumably they don't agree with it because it's an unnecessary waste (at least that is why I don't agree with it). It's even more of a waste if it is produced but with only half the councillors on.
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Originally Posted by g jones
That's a bit OTT to say Labour has screwed the country. The UK is a much better place now than it was in 1997. Education, health care, civil liberties, immgration laws, the number of people in work, protection for those in work. There is a book somewhere entitled 300 Labour gains. It makes you think how easily we forget at times what has been done.
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Education: 8th in international Maths league tables in 1997, now 24th.
Health Care: Very highly funded, not sure we have seen the full fruits of it though. Example the billions wasted on NHS IT system.
Civil liberties: Giving powers to councils to use terrorist-like surveillance on residents for trying to cheat catchment areas to get a better education for their children. Countless bodies allowed to enter our homes. A relentless pursuit of ID cards. Holding innocent peoples DNA against their will.
Immigration laws: More needs to be done. Jack Straw looked a fool on Question Time when he tried to argue that the rise of the BNP was nothing to do with Labour's immigration policy.
Number of people in work: 2.5 million people are unemployed, and that's according to official figures which hide much of the reality. 1 in 5 young people are out of work. Five million people have never had a job under Labour.
All this with double the deficit that the last Labour government left us with. In many peoples eyes, yes, Labour have screwed the country.