ok , had time to reflect on things , no way do I think we (the USofA) are the best thing since sliced bread, lots of things need fixing , but a lot fewer than many places in the world .
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The Item posted by Mr.Steeljack to emphasise his position sadly relies heavily on past glories, I am not disputing your involvement in the war, but had pearl harbour not been attacked would America have been so willing to enter the fray ? they hadn't been prior to the event..
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Have agree with you there , Pearl Harbour was the event that brought us into the war which had been up to that time a mainly European/North African (colonial) conflict . Much to our shame we were turning ships full of european refugees around and sending them back to Germany , why they weren't admitted to Canada (much nearer) or the UK I don't know , probably the same anti semitism that existed in the US at that time
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In 1969 the British Army deployed to Northern Ireland to counter terrorism and this ran on through until 2007, during this time Americans (not all) collected for the IRA to buy arms & ammunition to kill British soldiers, even American weapons were supplied to the terrorists. Gerry Adams was invited over and celebrated as a celebrity!! incredulous. Where was the backup then against terrorism ?
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no arguement from me on this one , but bear in mind members of HMs Govt. and members of the Royal family had no problems sitting down to wine and dine with the Kennedys and other members Irish Ameican lobby
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Bush Senior took the Americans into Iraq in 1991, on the clause of defending Kuwait from the evil Iraq dictator Saddam Husseien, who was it Steeljack who put Hussein in his position in the first place ? let me see, oh yes ! the Americans because they wanted him to fight against the Iranians in the 80's !!
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Saddam and the Baath party had been in control long before Bush senior, seem to remember newsreels from the 50s when I was a kid of them hanging the King of Iraq in the streets of Baghdad, he was the one imposed on the Iraqis by the British by Gertude Bell , one of the grandsons of the sherif of Mecca going back to the days when the British promised the Arabs a homeland of their own if they help fight the Turks
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Back into Iraq in 2003 Bush Junior up until 2009 British troops have supported the Americans in there fight to stamp out WMD & terrorism, Bush asked Blair said yes, so where are they these WMD objects ? At least Iraq is over but unfortunately Afghanistsan is still going on, and young "British" lads are dying following the American dream, don't get me wrong I feel sorry for your loses as well, but again following your lead how many thousand of young Men do you have over there ? We are a small Island we can't afford to lose to many of our lads, but as long as you don't see what's happening around you, we will suffer more than you.
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Have a bit of a problem with this one as do many American families ,without debating the pros and cons of the war, seems to me if the "european" allies want to be treated as equal partners they need to get up to the bar , the UK population is roughly 1/5 that of the US , so it seems logical that for every 50,000 troops the US has on the ground the UK should have at least 10,000
present numbers indicate the US has about 68,000 compared with the UKs 9000. No need for me to comment about the other Nato countries miserable contributions
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On a lighter note, you have a Baseball "World series" how many other countries are involved and by the way we invented it ,it was called "Rounders" first mentioned in 1745 in England, first played in the States 1846.
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ok no arguement from me on this one , but have to wonder why the English football league is called that when over 70% of the players are none UK born
