[pendy]

Okay, agreed on no animal testing for cosmetics.

Animal testing for drugs is still essential, although using long term prisoners banged up for nasty crimes would be a really good idea. Incidentally, there is still the death penalty for two offences: High Treason, and Arson in Her Majesty's Dockyards!

As to foxhunting, it isn't just Hooray Henries, that is a misapprehension. Hunts have all sorts of members, I personally know not just farmers, but a coalman and two dustmen in Sussex who go out with the Chiddingfold & Leconbury Hunt.

Nice one, the Chidding & Lec a couple of years ago were out cubbing (essential to keep the fox population down) with a group of hunt sabs in attendance. Once of the female HSs decided she would save this dear little fox cub from the huntsman's attentions. It bit her to the bone, I seem to remembe she had 20 stitches!

It's also very difficult to kill a fox by shooting - what usually happens is that they are injured, develop septicaemia and die in great pain some weeks later.

Let's put ferrets up the trousers of the Animal Liberationists and see how soon they change their tune!