[pendy]

I think we may be missing the point here.

A great many of the people who subscribe to things like ALF are not that much in love with animals.
What is the point for them is that they are opposing something. What they are opposing is for them a little bit nebulous, but animal rights gives them a focus.

What we have here is disaffected. disassociated, people who cannot form links with their own kind, therefore, they form links with a group which cannot repudiate them.

In short, psychos, who grab onto a group which cannot say "Go away, we do not need you or your kine" because they cannot speak. Animals cannot say :Go away, we do not need you or your sort to speak for us.

Ergo, they feel free to speak for an entire set of species that they know virtually nothing about.

As for the pro-lifers, those who oppose terminations (not abortions, that is the medical/ clinical word for any pregnancy which is terminated naturally or not) they do seem to me to have preponderance of born-again Christian men - not likely to get pregant are they!

I am not pro termination on demand as a form of birth control. Talk to me about it. You have to have been there to know about it.

The entire point, I think, is that you have had to be there - terminal illness, potentially life-saving drug being tested (and believe me, at that stage, you will be the one to test it), or wherever it takes to be on the receiving end.

I am an animal lover. I am also a human person lover. Are the two mutually exclusive?
I don't think so.