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Originally Posted by Gayle
As for being civil, well I would be, but it was not me who accused you of being the equivalent of a lying, tax fiddling MP, nor was it me that patronised you with the continued use of 'dear'. If you would like civil and open debate then please accord me some courtesy and I will respond in the same way.
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I did not accuse you of anything Gayle I merely asked, since you were unwilling to answer a simple question, what you had to hide. you drew those unfortunate conclusions entirely on your own.
I would have expected a lady of your calibre and education to understand that once she began taking the public penny she became, ipso facto, a public servant and as such is bound by generally understood behavioral conventions. For example: it is not generally held to be reasonable or polite to dismiss an enquiry by a member of the public with the line "I am very busy at the moment as it happens. I have an Arts Centre to open." one could almost hear the door slam as you swept off the forum. Further it is most definately not done to imply that a member of the public is, either directly or by association "pompous and arrogant". You might think it, but you may not say it. But, then, we all say things in the heat of the moment that we later regret, I know I do. So, in true Accyweb spirit, I will take your apology as read.
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Originally Posted by Gayle
Acrylic-Bob, it is you that is wrong. It will work.
There is little point in having a discussion about this when we are at such polar ends of the scale with regards to belief in the project. I'm am obviously not going to convince you that it will work, the only way to convince you will be as time progresses.
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I beg to differ on this point too, perhaps if you had stuck around with the fine artists instead of typesetters then you would understand that it is at precisely this point that the most illuminating discussions are held. It is a precious point where positions and proposals may be examined ruthlessly, tested to destruction and rebuilt. The argument for and against opposing hypotheses forms the whole basis of our culture and has done since the Greeks developed the use rhetoric, logic and oratory in the 5th century BC. I guess they do not teach too much about that sort of thing in "Graphics".
And you see this is what really worries me about all this civic arts centre malarky. It is the same thing that worried me about the Panopticon farrago and most of the stuff funded by the Arts Council come to that; it appears all surface and effect with little intellectual depth; in a word, superficial. It appears to be more about the beurocracy of arts administration, focus groups, feasibility studies, reports on reports, evidence based outcomes and all the rest of the quangospeak gibberish. As I have said to you before Gayle , you cannot teach ART. You can teach skills but that is all you can do. Art will either happen or it will not, more often it will not and no amount of evidence based outcomes, funding seminars or wishful thinking will alter that simple fact.