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Old 19-05-2010, 20:08   #64
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Re: Another kick in the teeth

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington View Post
perhaps your laws in Canada are more robust.

Do you then condone, the accommodation of men who give nothing to the country that they themselves have come to, for the prime purpose of committing atrocities against the hosts.

An eminent Judge ruled that these men posed a risk....and still do pose a risk to the security of this country, but yet he gave them the right to be protected in this country....the country that they seemingly despise.
Do you consider that to be justice?

They say that they will be abused and tortured...but then they lied to get into the country...purporting to be students, but dropping out of studies soon after enrolment.
One of them gained employment in a company that produced chemicals(hairdressing supplies)....chemicals that he would have blown the centre of Manchester up with......at the Easter holiday when it would be full of people.
Yet, we are expected with good grace to accept this ruling and pay for the monitoring of these terrorists...this at a time when we are being expected to tighten our belts.

It is galling in the extreme to find that our Home Secretary(newly in post) is 'disappointed' and has no plans to challenge this ruling.

It sends out the message to the world 'terrorists...find a welcome in the UK, they will look after your every need'
Not good!
From what I've observed, our laws on this issue are much like yours. And I'm surprised that you can twist my opposition to torture as condoning the accomodation of terrorists. I link my detestation of torture with a whole bunch of other, related opinions: I'm opposed to genocide, the recruitment of child soldiers, the use of rape as a weopon of war, racism, homophobia, poverty and starvation ... and numerous other things that happen in countries which do not have the benefit of the civilising effects of the rule of law.

Within living memory, the British and their allies sat in judgement at Nuremburg and determined that the flouting of international conventions, the murder of millions of Jews, Russina POWs, homosexuals, gypsies, the mentally handicapped, and, in general, anyone who objected the the way they did things, the enslavement and torture of civilians, was not only abhorrent, but illegal. And that not even the actions and commands of a legally constituted government could make them acceptable in any sense ... in other words, "I was merely obeying orders" is neither excuse nor defense.

I do know from what I read and hear in our media that the Canadian troops fighting in Afghanistan do, in general, believe in what they are fighting for: to bring peace, security, and the rule of law for the Afghan people.
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