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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Eric I wish I could help you with your query, but I only came to Clayton in 1966.....so don't know about the shop you speak of.

Yes you are right in your observations about it being a family thing...these traditional values, and that successive governments have fostered dependence on the state for the solution of what are essentially family issues.
This dependence is calculated and in my opinion(which could be wrong, but hey-ho) to socially engineer communities who will vote for the party who has taken their(family, community, traditional) responsibilities over.

I now see the link you were making, in relation to anarchy........I was relating anarchy to a kind of public disobedience.

You've been in Clayton since 1966 I'll be lookin for your name in the honours list Magaret