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Old 15-06-2010, 22:27   #40
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Re: The Greed of the Breweries

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss View Post
Firstly, counsell is quite different from a council, or indeed a councillor.

Secondly, I never mentioned Accrington as almost all my experience has been in the Preston area although I cannot believe that it is confined purely to one region. Scottish and Newcastle, Enterprise Inns and now Marstons have all helped to cripple perfectly healthy pubs that I have been involved with through pure greed. There is no getting around it, I have watched it happen and seen the tenancy agreements which have forced perfectly good landlords to up sticks because it simply isn't worth opening the doors under the new contract.

If, in 39 years, you've not had a bad experience with breweries then you've been very lucky. Trying to get anything out of them to improve a pub (even down to a glasswasher in one instance) is seemingly impossible as a team of reps barricade the lines of communication in order to justify their own miserable jobs. Being a publican in England doesn't look very much fun at the moment unless you run a free house.

There is no bandwagon to jump on and you have a very skewed view of what being a councillor actually means. Who on Earth is pulling my strings and to what ends?

This is a discussion forum - discuss.
It is indeed a discussion forum but would it not pay off to know something about what you are talking about.

S&N is owned jointly by Heineken and Carlsberg as far as i know since about 2008.Not sure who sold our Geordie friends down the river.

Enterprise is a leisure company and as we are in Accrington the nearest Marston pub is I think the Hoghton Arms.The only one in Preston that I can think of is in the Docklands area

Still tell your friend he can get a glass washer for £10 - £12 a week.

And by the way luck never came into it with my involvement with the pub trade It was give and take on both sides
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