[shillelagh]

think it started before that ... and i aint doing politics here .. but i can remember the sports day at a school .. and this was when one of my nieces went there ... shes now 25 ... and there was no losers then .. that was at least 15 years ago .. tis the same with another one .. though shes only just turned 16 ...

even when i was at school the pe teachers were just glad i managed to finish any sports .. i was crap at em .. so its not just started recent .. its been going on for a lot longer than people think.

Is it going to work .. a lot of kids do sports out of school ... play football on a saturday or sunday, learn karate or judo etc and enter competitions, play cricket in summer, do they not learn competitiveness from them as well ..

think it comes from a pile of different sources, parents, teachers, friends, relatives etc .. even watching tv .. watching the olympics on telly .. getting a gold medal ..

Something else ... this weekend hassy sports centre is running a football tournament .. they have done for the last 3 years. Its over subscribed. Theres teams from the fylde coast, formby, cumbria besides local teams.... Now the Under 8s they get all get a medal ... but the under 9s, 10s, 11s, 12s, 13s, 14s and 15s are all competing for a trophy .. and its being held over 2 days .. it has to be because of the amount of teams that have entered.