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blazey · 15-07-2010, 21:05

I don't think this is going to improve education in Britain and for that reason I'm out.

Enough people go to uni as it is because they don't appreciate how much debt they're getting into when they start and how difficult it is to get a job. Most just get bored of looking for graduate jobs, if they ever started to begin with, and go into ordinary bottom level jobs anyway. They're going for the experience, which is basically three years of having a great social life and attending a few lectures and seminars around it. Too many people lacking any real qualification for anything other than a piece of paper that says they could read books and answer a few questions on them. Well you do that throughout your life with or without a degree. This is why a huge proportion of graduates end up in standard jobs anyway. No matter how bad the job market is they were never good enough for a job of that level to begin with.

I think less people should be accepted into uni and then it wouldn't cost the government so much. Seeing as it is established that there aren't enough graduate level jobs to begin with and a lot of students aren't good enough for them anyway, I'd suggest they weren't good enough for uni to begin with either.

I'd also like to add that yes, it would be lovely to be able to go to university and learn for the sake of learning, but I'd also like to be able to drive a Ferrari for the sake of driving but sadly, these things in life cost money, ability and drive, no pun intended. If you haven't got them then you need to either work at getting the right things together to prove you have the real determination to succeed and be what is required, or you should just accept defeat and try to be satisfied with what you've got. Why should everyone pay for something that you COULD save towards doing with a few years hard work should you really genuinely want it.

And I know I got loans to pay for my education and that's lucky for me and all the rest of it, but I am still going to have to pay it back and pay tax from the decent job I get as a result. That's just life, paying back your own debts. But why should we pay so someone else can potentially just go to uni and think 'well it wasn't my money I've just wasted' if they don't work hard? It's just going to result in loads of students dossing around.

15-07-2010, 21:05	#13
blazey God Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denton/Oswaldtwistle Posts: 3,638 Blog Entries: 15 Liked: 0 times Rep Power: 994	Re: Graduate tax .... I don't think this is going to improve education in Britain and for that reason I'm out. Enough people go to uni as it is because they don't appreciate how much debt they're getting into when they start and how difficult it is to get a job. Most just get bored of looking for graduate jobs, if they ever started to begin with, and go into ordinary bottom level jobs anyway. They're going for the experience, which is basically three years of having a great social life and attending a few lectures and seminars around it. Too many people lacking any real qualification for anything other than a piece of paper that says they could read books and answer a few questions on them. Well you do that throughout your life with or without a degree. This is why a huge proportion of graduates end up in standard jobs anyway. No matter how bad the job market is they were never good enough for a job of that level to begin with. I think less people should be accepted into uni and then it wouldn't cost the government so much. Seeing as it is established that there aren't enough graduate level jobs to begin with and a lot of students aren't good enough for them anyway, I'd suggest they weren't good enough for uni to begin with either. I'd also like to add that yes, it would be lovely to be able to go to university and learn for the sake of learning, but I'd also like to be able to drive a Ferrari for the sake of driving but sadly, these things in life cost money, ability and drive, no pun intended. If you haven't got them then you need to either work at getting the right things together to prove you have the real determination to succeed and be what is required, or you should just accept defeat and try to be satisfied with what you've got. Why should everyone pay for something that you COULD save towards doing with a few years hard work should you really genuinely want it. And I know I got loans to pay for my education and that's lucky for me and all the rest of it, but I am still going to have to pay it back and pay tax from the decent job I get as a result. That's just life, paying back your own debts. But why should we pay so someone else can potentially just go to uni and think 'well it wasn't my money I've just wasted' if they don't work hard? It's just going to result in loads of students dossing around.