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Originally Posted by Less
Does this give the cyclist the right, morally or legally to make pavements unsafe for pedestrians?
Notice the title of this thread?
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I notice that you are completely twisting what I have said, I was referring to those on the road and you know it - you have miss quoted me as you usually seem to do on every topic.
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Originally Posted by Less
Instead of moving onto the pavements shouldn't cyclists be insisting on their right to use the roads safely?
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How can they with people like Accyman about who do not even think they should be on the road?
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A very poor excuse, a cyclist by obeying the rules of the road and by riding defensively CAN use the roads safely.
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Yet again, twisting what has been said, what are the rules of the road for cyclist then? Have you ever read them?
A cyclist has every right to use the whole width of the road although it is not always advised due to the great big lumps of metals being driven by people not taking notice.
ANd with the extremely poor state of some of the roads a cyclist CANNOT always use the road safely sticking to the left at all times.
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Don't use bad practice of motorists as an excuse to use bad practice yourself, the pavement is a sanctuary of safety for pedestrians, you have no legal right to perambulate along it.
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Where did I excuse anyone cycling on the pavement? twisting again.
I'm sure there is a song about that!
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If, as I have already mentioned the Police actually enforced the laws already at their disposal, ensuring motorists took care on the road making it safer for cyclists and ensuring that without exception anyone found riding a bike on the pavement or ignoring traffic lights and other such misdemeanour's was prosecuted we would not need this discussion.
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That's about the only thing you have said that is not twisting what I said & actually makes sense.
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it's a shame that these heroes of the road are often lumped together with the poor examples set by the, 'I don't give a sod about you brigade' of ignorant riders.
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Just like the "I don't give a sod about anyone else" motorised vehicle drivers.
There are ignorant people all over the place, these days people just do not give a sod about anyone else, its all a me, me ,me - I'm all right jack & sod you society.
I just spent a good 10 minutes waiting at a roundabout by Haslingden Tesco roundabout because the ignorance of everyone else was not allowing a big HGV to pull out when it was obvious he needed the whole width of the road, even when he was 1/2 way out they were still insisting on pulling out and going round & in front of him.
Noone gives a toss any more, not about poeple using the roads and certainly not about poeple cycling on the pavement.
If you feel so strongly about it then stop them, tell them to get off yourself.
Better still, get a bicycle and cycle on some roads yourself, see how bad & dangerous it can be on the roads.
There is no excuse for cycling into a pedestrian or not fitting a horn/bell but there ARE reasons why it can often be safer to cycle on the pavement.
Which is why a lot of the cycle lanes also extend onto pavements.
Burnley has several cycle lanes that extend onto & along pavements, there is one near the roundabout mentioned above.