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DaveinGermany · 05-08-2010, 18:59

We've been over this ground before & not so long back (24hr drinking reviewed) As Barrie states in his post he lives in France & doesn't see half the problems that seem to plague the UK. I myself live in Germany & spend a lot of time in Holland, both these Countries have extended opening hours in their Bars & Cafes, but don't even come close in terms of nuisance/drunkenness/anti social behaviour, I mean Holland even has legalised premises for selling pot & spliffs.

I would therefore say the problem lays squarely on the shoulders & with the attitudes of those who imbibe in the UK. There are plenty of older drinkers who go out enjoy themselves & amble off home not a problem to anyone, something to do with self discipline/control & attitude to alcohol. Then on the flip side you usually find those spewing, fighting & being obnoxious & anti social tend to be younger drinkers who have gone out half cut & with the intention of getting wasted regardless.

Price is in this case of total irrelevance, it won't stop those who are determined to get into such a state at all but penalise those who go out with a few friends to have a "Sociable" pint or two. The Pubs are struggling as it is & if more people stay away because of increased pricing, we'll have more job losses & this will in turn lead to a further degradation of society.

No, the problem needs hammering from the roots up & that is with peoples attitudes & behaviour & not punitive taxing.

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DaveinGermany a multieloquent Mule Xeno Tactic Champion! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Back in Bramsche, Germany Posts: 9,023 Blog Entries: 76 Liked: 4664 times Rep Power: 905668	Re: A minimum price on alcohol??? We've been over this ground before & not so long back (24hr drinking reviewed) As Barrie states in his post he lives in France & doesn't see half the problems that seem to plague the UK. I myself live in Germany & spend a lot of time in Holland, both these Countries have extended opening hours in their Bars & Cafes, but don't even come close in terms of nuisance/drunkenness/anti social behaviour, I mean Holland even has legalised premises for selling pot & spliffs. I would therefore say the problem lays squarely on the shoulders & with the attitudes of those who imbibe in the UK. There are plenty of older drinkers who go out enjoy themselves & amble off home not a problem to anyone, something to do with self discipline/control & attitude to alcohol. Then on the flip side you usually find those spewing, fighting & being obnoxious & anti social tend to be younger drinkers who have gone out half cut & with the intention of getting wasted regardless. Price is in this case of total irrelevance, it won't stop those who are determined to get into such a state at all but penalise those who go out with a few friends to have a "Sociable" pint or two. The Pubs are struggling as it is & if more people stay away because of increased pricing, we'll have more job losses & this will in turn lead to a further degradation of society. No, the problem needs hammering from the roots up & that is with peoples attitudes & behaviour & not punitive taxing.