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DaveinGermany · 07-08-2010, 19:02

In response to "Guinness" Yep, the English do have a very chequered past but then again so do many other European Nations, Belgian Congo, Dutch East Indies, Spanish conquest of South America, French & Germans in Africa the list goes on & back into the 15/1600's up to present day.

"Slave Labour" would've been used as that was the easiest option(not only by us), instead of carting Navvies & Artisans all over the globe they used what was available & despite what you maintain I don't believe all were treated with disrespect & an iron rod of discipline.

Your points are valid but at the time of conquest & Empire that was the way of the world. We apparently live now in an "enlightened society" so how can you justify the continuance in certain areas of the world today this behaviour continuing ? Not by us but those who argued & fought for their independence from the likes of us & the other great Nations ?

What we left behind in most cases was a functioning & organized society which in some lands have gone to the wall, so what does that tell you about the bogeymen & who they are ? If we are no longer there how may we be held accountable ? I see by your Avatar & site name you display symbols that represent Ireland, is this in part the reason for your view on the matter ?

British Troops have to all intents & purposes been drawn away from Ireland & everything that their presence entailed, yet as recently as last week we saw a return to the dark days of the 70's-90's, This one you can't blame on us, so who are the bad guys ?

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DaveinGermany a multieloquent Mule Xeno Tactic Champion! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Back in Bramsche, Germany Posts: 9,023 Blog Entries: 76 Liked: 4664 times Rep Power: 905668	Re: Do the Scots REALLY want Independance? In response to "Guinness" Yep, the English do have a very chequered past but then again so do many other European Nations, Belgian Congo, Dutch East Indies, Spanish conquest of South America, French & Germans in Africa the list goes on & back into the 15/1600's up to present day. "Slave Labour" would've been used as that was the easiest option(not only by us), instead of carting Navvies & Artisans all over the globe they used what was available & despite what you maintain I don't believe all were treated with disrespect & an iron rod of discipline. Your points are valid but at the time of conquest & Empire that was the way of the world. We apparently live now in an "enlightened society" so how can you justify the continuance in certain areas of the world today this behaviour continuing ? Not by us but those who argued & fought for their independence from the likes of us & the other great Nations ? What we left behind in most cases was a functioning & organized society which in some lands have gone to the wall, so what does that tell you about the bogeymen & who they are ? If we are no longer there how may we be held accountable ? I see by your Avatar & site name you display symbols that represent Ireland, is this in part the reason for your view on the matter ? British Troops have to all intents & purposes been drawn away from Ireland & everything that their presence entailed, yet as recently as last week we saw a return to the dark days of the 70's-90's, This one you can't blame on us, so who are the bad guys ?