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Gordon Booth · 07-08-2010, 19:45

Guinness,however you measure it we were the most benign colonists of that age or any earlier one.Of course we put in the systems for our benefit but they didn't have them before and they had when we left!
We DIDN'T use slave labour-we were the first nation to abolish it in 1834.They weren't well paid by modern standards but they WERE paid and a lot of them are worse paid now,after 'freedom'.
Of course we sided with the stronger tribes,we weren't idiots, we were there to win.And we NEVER practised ethnic extermination(possibly because it didn't make good economic sense?)
In 1904 the general over the German army in Namibia instructed his army'Any Herero found within these German borders will be shot.No prisoners will be taken.That is my decision'.This was official government policy and it included women and children.Those they couldn't shoot they drove into the Kalahari desert to die,having first poisoned the few wells there were.About 22,000 died out there.His aim was to clear the land for the German people.Ring a bell?Any they missed killing were put concentration cams and WORKED and starved to death.Oh yes, and they had a German geneticist experimenting on them to prove Aryan supremacy-a lot of their skulls were still in Germany till quite recently.Ring another bell?
We established the concentration camps in the Boer War to contain them,not to eliminate them.Yes,they were badly and cruelly run and many died but at least there was a massive outcry from the British at home and things were changed.
The Africaaners-we let them run the country,the Irish were given independance(after a slight argument) and the treatment of the American Indians was carried out by an American government long after we had gone.The aborigines-I'll have to think about that,but we didn't exterminate them.
As for the David Niven film-made by American studios who are still spouting anti-British drivel-see the Mel Gibson films.According to their films it was 'our American boys' who bombed the Ruhr ??And John Wayne won the war,we didn't have anything to do with it.

Many things we did were wrong by modern standards but NOT by the standards of the day. As empires go we didn't do too badly and no PC crawling should be allowed to give the lie to that.

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Gordon Booth Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,402 Liked: 715 times Rep Power: 46612	Re: Do the Scots REALLY want Independance? Guinness,however you measure it we were the most benign colonists of that age or any earlier one.Of course we put in the systems for our benefit but they didn't have them before and they had when we left! We DIDN'T use slave labour-we were the first nation to abolish it in 1834.They weren't well paid by modern standards but they WERE paid and a lot of them are worse paid now,after 'freedom'. Of course we sided with the stronger tribes,we weren't idiots, we were there to win.And we NEVER practised ethnic extermination(possibly because it didn't make good economic sense?) In 1904 the general over the German army in Namibia instructed his army'Any Herero found within these German borders will be shot.No prisoners will be taken.That is my decision'.This was official government policy and it included women and children.Those they couldn't shoot they drove into the Kalahari desert to die,having first poisoned the few wells there were.About 22,000 died out there.His aim was to clear the land for the German people.Ring a bell?Any they missed killing were put concentration cams and WORKED and starved to death.Oh yes, and they had a German geneticist experimenting on them to prove Aryan supremacy-a lot of their skulls were still in Germany till quite recently.Ring another bell? We established the concentration camps in the Boer War to contain them,not to eliminate them.Yes,they were badly and cruelly run and many died but at least there was a massive outcry from the British at home and things were changed. The Africaaners-we let them run the country,the Irish were given independance(after a slight argument) and the treatment of the American Indians was carried out by an American government long after we had gone.The aborigines-I'll have to think about that,but we didn't exterminate them. As for the David Niven film-made by American studios who are still spouting anti-British drivel-see the Mel Gibson films.According to their films it was 'our American boys' who bombed the Ruhr ??And John Wayne won the war,we didn't have anything to do with it. Many things we did were wrong by modern standards but NOT by the standards of the day. As empires go we didn't do too badly and no PC crawling should be allowed to give the lie to that.