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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Well, you are suckered because there isn't an alternative.

The Labour government wanted to let us think we could influence things and asked us for opinions on different things....it is just a placatory measure, a distractor.

Then this coalition mob get in and ask us which laws we want to be scrubbed off the books.....again, to try and bamboozle us into thinking we could make a difference.

I'm fed up of gimmicks, sound bites, spin(lies).......what I want is someone to make radical changes in the welfare system......remove it from the list of career options.
I want someone who will make justice something that doesn't make criminals the victims, that will listen to the victims of crime and take into account how crime has radically changed their lives.

I want someone who will recognise that education for our young people is an essential if we are to have a future as a country, but that that education does not always need to be given in a University...we need to value those with practical skills,

Is all this too much to ask of our supposedly democratic system?

No, don't answer that....I think I already know the answer.

I agree with a lot of what your saint Margaret, especially education, never have understood this calmer for university places, you were a nurse and from all reports a bloody good one too, pray tell which university you obtained your skillsI chose to follow my father and became a Joiner, I only wish I'd have been half as good as he was, although I wasn't all that bad, until my poor health cut it short, oh and by the way my father didn't go to university either. There will always be a need for people to hang doors, glaze windows, fit baths and sinks plus central heating, put roofs on, build walls, plaster walls, the list is endless, you don't need a university degree to do these jobs.

I agree on the welfare state as well, even though I unfortunately rely on it myself, but I have stated more than once, anybody who takes money from the tax payer should be prepared to prove they are entitled to that money, I will attend any tribunal or medical if required to do so, yet people like Mancie say the most vulnerable in society are being targeted, no they are not, there are none so vulnerable as those who chose to be saw as you say the welfare state should not be a career option, but there for those in genuine need

I am not great fan of the collision, but that is what we have been saddled with, and like you I spoiled my vote because of local issues, but I did cast a vote, however I admire that fact that this government have brought in 3 former Labour ministers in an advisory capacity, which can only be a step in the right direction