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Originally Posted by JCB

True much has changed since 1975 , but there is also much confusion . The title of this thread is one example . The closer military ties with France have nothing to do with the European Union .

Another source of confusion is the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights . These are not part of the European Union .

Many associate anything European with the European Union .

As I have already said I voted in 1975 to leave the EEC .
If there was a referendum tomorrow about whether we should stay in the European Union , I would not be as clear in my mind as I was in 1975 . I have yet to see a viable alternative to our membership of the EU .

Most of the debate is about single issues about which people are concerned . It's easy to pick on one topic to knock the EU , and sometimes to pick on one topic that has nothing to do with the EU to knock the EU .

There has been no serious debate about membership , or about what leaving the EU would entail .

Reading between the lines , you will probably see that my opinion towards the EEC , now the EU , has mellowed since our referendum .

Maybe we should align ourselves with Iran or North Korea. At least they have leaders who are more than capable of scaring the sh-one-t out of the cowering west.