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smudgie · 17-11-2010, 17:42

Some very interesting points of view in this thread from both people.

Everybody knows my view on those idiots still messing about around our club.
Whilst they are still at the helm, there is no way we will ever progress that is quite clear to all.

As with the ground, its clearly not up to standard as we all know, its Blue Square standard at best, yet we wont do anything to try and improve it in the long term.
Its always "just in time" to satisfy the next regulation. Its embarrassingly poor in terms of League 2.

As for the flag ban, it is ridiculous , and no doubt in my mind it has destroyed everything the Ultra's have tried to do at games since there inception. Yes it was ridiculous to set a smoke bomb off, when they had been warned, but as others have pointed out, with CCTV why not just ban the individual , and not kill the entire ground atmosphere.

In my view, it is quite clear the club want shut of the whole "ultra's" movement which considering what they have done for the club in the last few years is an absolute disgrace.

17-11-2010, 17:42	#49
smudgie Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,307 Liked: 498 times Rep Power: 6446	Re: Dwindling Home Support? Some very interesting points of view in this thread from both people. Everybody knows my view on those idiots still messing about around our club. Whilst they are still at the helm, there is no way we will ever progress that is quite clear to all. As with the ground, its clearly not up to standard as we all know, its Blue Square standard at best, yet we wont do anything to try and improve it in the long term. Its always "just in time" to satisfy the next regulation. Its embarrassingly poor in terms of League 2. As for the flag ban, it is ridiculous , and no doubt in my mind it has destroyed everything the Ultra's have tried to do at games since there inception. Yes it was ridiculous to set a smoke bomb off, when they had been warned, but as others have pointed out, with CCTV why not just ban the individual , and not kill the entire ground atmosphere. In my view, it is quite clear the club want shut of the whole "ultra's" movement which considering what they have done for the club in the last few years is an absolute disgrace.