[Busman747]

Originally Posted by Chappy

Maybe Kipax gave his kids love and affection, and gave them respect when the did something right? shame most adults today cant give youths respect to.

Is it not the old ones on here thats brought up the children of today??

Give our children a chance! its up to us to show them respect. Unless we give them respect we should not expect it back?

I see where you are coming from Chappy but to answer your points:

Yes, Kipax may (and probably does) give his kids love and affection, no one questions that....but he was blinkered in his reply to exactly how he stopped his children from doing wrong,

"Is it not the old ones on here thats brought up the children of today??" ....NO!! You are old enough to remember the decades of respect!

Things started going sour a couple of decades ago when the phrase "P.C." was invented! Are you old enough to remember the village bobby? or the teachers that were a substitute parent between the hours of 9am to 3.30 pm? Can you honestly say that your parents never chastised you from birth to the age of seven? If not, what kept you on the straight and narrow. please tell!!

"Give our children a chance! its up to us to show them respect. Unless we give them respect we should not expect it back"

We give them respect until they show that they do not deserve it. I would like to think that the majority of kids today are law abiding and honest but.......have you tried walking through a major town like Burnley or Blackburn at midnight? As a coach driver, I have, and the feeling you get is HOSTILE! Halifax in my opinion is the worst town in the north, After 11pm, it seems to be a "no go" area for police, let alone sober coach drivers!

This is NOT a problem caused by just parents, whether they smack their kids or not, the P.C. brigade state that we should not "chastise" our children, so it is frowned upon, The youth quickly learn that THEY are in control and are immune to parents, teachers, police...etc etc!! 10 years ago, they learnt that they could beat someone up and get away with it because they are "under age" Today, they can shoot a gun at a victim and plead that they "found the gun" and didn't realise the consequences of pulling the trigger!" HOGWASH!!

Kids of today have us old'uns over a barrel and they know it! Smack and I'll sue, Swear and I'll sue!....

At this point, I would like to state that there are many kids that still have respect but I wonder if the percentage has dropped to below 50%??? The question is that of the remaining "thugs" How many have been pampered by parents that "do not feel it is nessesary to "smack" their kids when they are young?"

I recall one lad that was given "the benefit of the doubt" by his parents, and at the age of 16, ruled the household, regularly, beating up his parents because he was angry or upset! He was never brought to justice by the authorities because his parents were too afraid of him, but everyone in the village knew what was going on because he was "proud" of his achievements and boasting gave him "street cred"

Ask your sons or daughters how important "street cred" is.........you may be shocked by their answers!