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Originally Posted by gynn
Because they know that the result would be overwhelmingly in favour of leaving the EU, which they couldn't deliver because of past agreements that we've signed. Like it or not, we are in it.
At least the new Government has pledged that no further powers can be devolved to Europe without a referendum, so any future moves towards a United States of Europe will be stalled.
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I don't accept that. If we had a referendum (with the inevitable result) and if we stated our intention to leave, who knows what would happen? Perhaps other countries would start to break ranks too, emboldened by our move. Perhaps it would eventually lead to a more sensible arrangement - a loose grouping of independent states who have come together for mutually beneficial trading purposes. You know, the sort of thing we thought we were voting for in the first referendum. Whatever, if it's the will of the British people to leave, the government should look for ways to do that, even if it means protracted negotiations. The problem is that a referendum isn't even on the agenda of the major parties; the only parties who are for it are the BNP, who most people (me included) wouldn't touch with a bargepole and UKIP who seem to me to be a more rightwing version of the Tory party.
As for Cameron's "pledge"...oh yeah, sure!
Incidentally, Gynn, I can't figure you out. I assume you're a member of a major party but which one?