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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Gobbiner, people whinge and moan because frequently the travellers leave the place a mess.
I have never known a group of travellers clear up the place where they have been encamped, but you have...so there our, experiences differ.
They seem to drive about in un-taxed vehicles...which usually means they are uninsured too. They are not abiding by the laws which the majority of us have to adhere to.
And whatever communty they foist themselves onto has the unsavoury task of cleaning up their mess and paying for it.
So it isn't any wonder that people get fed up and in those circumstances may resort to language which could be construed as derogatory and racial...this is because it is born out of frustration.
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All of a sudden I am being accused of lying and defending the travellers, so I'll reply to you Margaret because you are presenting your views in an inoffensive way and don't appear to be having a go at me.
You and others make lots of good points of why there is so much frustration and justified prejudice against travellers. I am not defending travellers at all, except at the point where it becomes racism. In the end you just cannot generalise about all travellers - it becomes racism when you do.
No I did not go and seek out every turd, Garinda, but did you or walkinman? If so was it really any worse than the dog turds everywhere that causes most people in this country to walk with their heads down all the time? But if they did leave turds that I did not see, then it was just as bad and I withdraw my defence of this one bunch of travellers regarding leaving the place clean and tidy.
Those who accuse me of nauseous drivel or being a do-gooder etc should just look at what you have written and see the disrespect in it. You have your minds made up about travellers and will not budge. Fair enough but G Jones and Clare Pritchard took positive and successful action and I can bet that they also try to remain impartial at all times, even if inside they feel the same as you. So don't accuse me of what I am not. Instead realise that I would like to see the back of law-breaking travellers and all criminal elements just as much if not more than you do. But that does not include expressing anger, hatred, racism or unfair prejudice in public.