[Less]

Originally Posted by Mikejoed

As I don't recall seeing you there Less you can hardly expect your defence of the evening to be valid. It's as plain as your face you're just creeping around Mick. And as it's supposed to be an open forum where all are welcome I don't think its a good idea to promote Mick as a leader of a 'Clique'

Nor did you see me at the first or any of the regular monthly meets that were held, but I was there where were you? If I'm busy on the night of a meet I don't turn up, simple as. My defence of Mick against a whiner such as you should not be necessary but the world like you and I isn't perfect.
I'm sure given the first chance you are the type of person that would want to join a 'clique', no doubt as moral leader.

I don't have any qualms whatsoever about the great Job he does on Accy web. It's just that I think on this occasion the splitting of the group spoilt it for me personally. I thought a forum was about expression of free speech, within reason. I meant no offence and intended none. A little understanding from the non smoker's point of view might warrant some commiseration.

It is hardly Micks fault that Government legislation says smokers have to sit outside.

there are plenty of threads about the smoking ban, find one and beat your drum as much as you like, don't go moaning at Mick just because you couldn't be bothered to nip outside to talk even for just a few minutes.

If the 'Selfish' thought crossed someone's mind just maybe there was a tad of it about.

More than a 'tad', you are enjoying your own bout of selfishness and using it to beat up Mick who never causes harm or discomfort for anyone.

I was a smoker myself and I know there can be nowt so self righteous as a former smoker but in this case it has nowt to do with that. When I was a smoker I would go outside, have a toot and come back in and join the rest of the gang.

I don't think you became self righteous after giving up smoking, I think you served an apprenticeship in it, well now you can stop your overqualified.

I wouldn't dream of going out with my non smoking friends and decide after the night got underway to sit in a separate room from them.

Before the smoking ban this wasn't a problem, but it isn't a problem the smokers created so don't blame them for stopping outside, they don't blame the non smokers for stopping inside, though there are usually a few non smokers that also sit with the smokers they claim it's a better atmosphere, (strange that isn't it?).

Can't see why y'all can't see my point and that's as bad, if not worse than defending what really was an error of judgment.

We can see your point, what you can't see is that it's neither the smokers or the non smokers fault, we have been split by legislation.

A forum is supposed to be 'Inclusive' not 'Exclusive'. No cliques, no favourites, just one big family where everyone is appreciated

Don't talk wet a forum isn't a family, it is a group of people that discuss and exchange views sometimes we agree and other times the arguments get heated.

As for inclusive, the effort you put in makes you inclusive, sitting at your keyboard and moaning about being excluded gets you what you deserve.

I notice you have already been told about the 'clique' being a long standing joke, I just wonder, how did I know you would raise to the bait?

OK I'm done whinging

Somehow I get the feeling you have only just started.

Look forward to seeing you at the next meeting, have you decided where it will be yet?