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riversideresearch · 27-12-2011, 08:34

This is an old post I know but I am researching for the National Trust and am investigating the Hartmann family. Through your excellent sleuthing I have discovered a large chunk in one go which is excellent. Did you ever hear from Sophie Hartmann again this looked like a really good connection.
Emma Steiner married James Hartmann and their son was James Frederick Phillipe Maximillian Hartmann who died in an accident in Switzerland in 1921, I have not been able to find any more details about this. However, in the 1891 census he says he was born in Ireland, is there any suggestion that he was the result of Emma's 'relationship' with Edward VII?
James and Emma rented Saltram House in Devon from the Earl of Morley and seemed to have used it as a summer residence for a while. They were friends not only of the Morleys but also the Earls of Mount Edgcumbe and eventually their families become linked through the marriage of James Frederick to Constance Lister.

Any other information you may have would be welcome. Riversideresearch

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riversideresearch Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1 Liked: 0 times Rep Power: 0	Re: Edward V11 - Prince of Pleasure" BBC2 at 9pm This is an old post I know but I am researching for the National Trust and am investigating the Hartmann family. Through your excellent sleuthing I have discovered a large chunk in one go which is excellent. Did you ever hear from Sophie Hartmann again this looked like a really good connection. Emma Steiner married James Hartmann and their son was James Frederick Phillipe Maximillian Hartmann who died in an accident in Switzerland in 1921, I have not been able to find any more details about this. However, in the 1891 census he says he was born in Ireland, is there any suggestion that he was the result of Emma's 'relationship' with Edward VII? James and Emma rented Saltram House in Devon from the Earl of Morley and seemed to have used it as a summer residence for a while. They were friends not only of the Morleys but also the Earls of Mount Edgcumbe and eventually their families become linked through the marriage of James Frederick to Constance Lister. Any other information you may have would be welcome. Riversideresearch