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Originally Posted by mobertol
As you high-light the main problem currently is the translation of the collective voice through the political system, which would then allow change.
Constant discussion and the sounding of the communal voice is the way to effect change in a democracy- so lets keep talking about even the most controversial of arguments which are part of all our lives.
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It all sounds wonderful, in theory. But in practice, The executive hears what it wants to hear and
only what it wants to hear, despite frequent protestations to the contrary accompanied by copious quantities of crocodile tears. How many time times did we hear that labour were "Learning the lessons" after each and every cock up only to see them then carry on with business as usual? How many times will we have to hear 'Call me Dave' tell us he 'Gets it' before we all come to the conclusion that he is lying through his teeth?
We have a prime example in a thread currently being bumped up the board regarding our MP's decision to vote with his party and the government, against the wishes of his electorate in the issue of the EU referendum. Will he explain his decision? Will he come and discuss the matter with any of his former friends on this forum? Will he respond to anything that we now have to say to him on this or any other matter? What do you think!
A few years ago The French and the Dutch gave their opinion of the Lisbon Treaty in referendums. Did the Brussels executive take any notice? The Irish had to have two go's at getting the only answer acceptable to the executive.
You clearly have much more faith in the nature of representative democracy than I do. And I am sort of pleased that you are able to be less cynical than I am. For me, it seems nothing short of revolution will effect meaningful change. Perhaps I have lived too long.