Thread: Ed Miliband
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Old 09-01-2012, 18:52   #150
Gordon Booth
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Re: Ed Miliband

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Originally Posted by g jones View Post
The EU is run by an elected national body. The Council of Ministers. Our representative was elected in Britain, for Britain and sits in the Commons. Countries have the right of veto so it is not possible to be run from Brussels. The common market which everyone agrees provides jobs in order to work one set of rules. Less bureaucrats and less bureaucracy. 1 rule not 27.

It also defends citizens interests where weak countries and I include Britain are unable to. Israel, mobile phone charges, food and drink, large multinationals fear it etc... It's expansion causes me concern in terms of immigration particularly the new accession countries and also on green issues. It fails to deal with trade imbalences outside of the EU and is anti state intervention.
Graham, lets clarify a few of the misrepresentations you make.
First- the Council of Ministers is a multinational body on which we have
only 29 votes out of 345(even Poland gets 27!).
Second- ' The council can only legislate on the basis of proposals submitted to it by the European Commission'. (quote from Consilium). In other words anonymous bureaucrats come up with the new rules, the Commission is then allowed to discuss them and vote on them. It doesn't come up with new rules/laws of its own right! You say it is 'not possible to be run from Brussels' but it obviously IS
Third- countries do not have the right of veto in the above! A qualified majority is all that is needed, sometimes a majority of states(sometimes two thirds, sometimes a simple majority) or a minimum of 255 votes out of a possible 345.
Fourth- 'One set of rules','1 rule not 27'. Are you advocating that this rapidly growing monster should be able to apply the same rule to every country whether they like it or not? Tax,fiscal,employment, retirement etc.etc.etc?

As a democratically elected MP in a democratic parliament how can you dare to advocate our democracy be handed over to a Dictatorship of anonymous bureaucrats based in another country?
They've already replaced the Governments of 2 of the 27, now they've got a taste for it we should be afraid!
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