[jaysay]

You have a point Gordon, but Joan had exactly the opposite reaction when she had to have her springer put down a few years ago, it was about 20 year old and she'd had her since a puppy, but when they got to the vets the dog came to life and perked up, but it was kinder to her her to sleep her kidneys had gone and her legs were shot at but it didn't stop that last brave attempt