[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by Wrighty

For one jaysay i don't have a TV license & I don't intend on getting one .. I am not paying for the BBC simple as that! .. more fool you for having one

They are in breach of there contract by receiving funding from the EU

Good man.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I just hope that argument stands up in court.

Why would he end up in court?

Originally Posted by Michael1954

Anyone who avoids paying for a licence is a thief. I'll have a good laugh when you are in court. You really are dim, aren't you?

I would say he is dim at all, seems like he could of done his research and knows the score.

Originally Posted by Michael1954

Next you will be saying you don't pay for a driving licence or tax your car, that is if you are old enough to drive a car. You are coming across as a little squirt.

Different ball game, you apply for a driving licence you don't apply for a TV licence.

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

There is no need for a 'detector van'. In order to find out if some one has a TV license or not all you need is a list of addresses, say the Electoral Register, or a complete list of every address in the country. Then you just match it up to those who have not got a TV license.
Simples.
Wrighty, I would be very very careful posting how you don't have a license, it may come to bite you.

Its a invitation to pay, sent to the legal occupier.

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I have learned recently that those detector vans are a scam.
BBC admits that TV detector vans only work because Britons believe they do – Boing Boing Gadgets

They worked to reduce licence evasion just because the public had been told they did, not because they were capable of detecting anything.

If that is true, and licence enforcers have no rights to enter property, how can they prove in court that you tuned in to a live broadcast?

No right what so ever to enter your property.

Originally Posted by Michael1954

I wonder if Virgin Media and Sky are obliged to reveal the names and addresses of their customers. If so, it would be easy to cross-reference if their customers have TV licences.

No

Originally Posted by jaysay

But even though you don't watch that much TV you have the good sense to have a licence. They do catch people who don't have a licence as can readily be seen in the Obs most weeks

Because they contract with the licencing people.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

[I]Part 4 of the Communications Act 2003 makes it an offence to install or use a television receiver to watch or record any television programmes as they're being shown on television without a valid TV Licence. The Act empowers the BBC to make and amend the terms and conditions of a licence. It allows the government to make regulations to exempt or reduce the licence fee for certain persons in certain circumstances. It also makes it an offence for anyone to have any television receiver in their possession or under their control who intends to install or use it in contravention of the main offence (above), or knows, or has reasonable grounds for believing, that another person intends to install or use a television receiver in contravention of the main offence.

The Wireless Telegraphy Act 1967 (as amended) requires television dealers to notify TV Licensing of all their sales and rentals of television sets. This includes analogue and digital TV sets, DVD and video recorders, digital boxes and computers (including laptops) with TV cards.

The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 define what is a 'television set' and who is a 'television dealer'. The regulations also set out the various types of TV Licence, the criteria for obtaining them, the fees payable for them (including the frequency and amount of instalments) and the different concessions available, including concessions for people who are blind or severely sight impaired, people who are over 74 years of age, people who live in residential care and people who run hotels, guesthouses or campsites.

This is from the TV licensing site......if you want to look up exactly what Part 4 of the regulations says, well that is up to you. But, in short,you are breaking the law....and you have told all of us that you are breaking the law. Not sensible is it?

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

That is up to the law to sort out, and believe me they are far happier to deal with people who don't have a TV licence than they are to deal with a huge corporation like the BBC.......so if you have a working TV(or for that matter a computer or laptop that is capable of receiving TV stations) and no licence, then you are breaking the law, and could be prosecuted.

It might be better to keep your mouth shut.......who knows, they may be able to trace you from the information that you have already posted.

I prefer to stay legal and follow the law of the land.....I don't consider that as stupid, but what you are doing is(stupid)...your choice!

Its an ACT not the law of the land, Civil offence.

Originally Posted by cashman

Well i do, Rule1 of any fiddle- Keep yer big gob shut.

Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut.

Originally Posted by Neil

I think they could if they wanted to.

For an example look that the guy on twitter arrested for the comments he made about Fabrice Muamba.

Who could?

Originally Posted by Neil

If you search the internet you will find that the police need a court order to obtain the IP address of a forum/twitter/facebook/etc poster.
The police then request details about who used that IP address at that time/date from the ISP. They may not even need a court order to get the details from the ISP. Depending on the offence this could be enough evidence for a search warrant and seizure of the offending persons PC/phone equipment for forensic investigation.

Why would the police get involved for TV licence?