[walkinman221]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

The issue is that every year they line up on Rememberance Sunday and bang on about how bad the Nazi's were and how we fought for freedom to defeat the evil! Trying to make out it was so black and white, when it is not! This is the point of my post. That many business men in USA made money out of the war and the holocaust and invested in Nazi Germany.

IBM provided counting machines that helped the Nazi's keep track of all the jews and it is stated that but for those machines they would not have been able to kill so many people. Henry Ford the car manufacurer, invested in Nazi Germany and apparently was anti-semitic.

So the issue is if all these people who are now a respectable part of the modern world and were implicit in evil, why every year do we gather and bang on about how we "beat evil!"

It smacks of hypocricy to me because the lines are not so clear cut.

So Von Braun is on record as saying "he tried to help people or he didn't know it was going on!" - that is what they all would say if given the chance. Fact is without Braun the Americans would have been well behind the Russians and may have lost the space race (if indeed they did win it and even went to the moon?)

Just be glad that the Nazi's didn't work out how to make an atomic bomb before the end of the 2nd World War.

Who are" THEY" you are talking about, banging on about the defeat of evil? Do you mean the brave old soldiers who fought and shed their blood on foreign soil? Many very young lives hardly started, then quickly extinguished. "They" as you call them cared not for big business or atomic bombs" they" fought for freedom and tolerance and other values which you seem to have so much contempt for.Your opening to your paragraph is crass to say the least,you would not be having your posts put up on this forum if "they" had not fought, your life and mine would be very different if there had been an alternative outcome. So maybe you may need to review your obvious disrespect for the souls who fought and died in the second world war.