[Margaret Pilkington]

Guinness, I take your points.

As for the comment on Kevin Logan, the difference there is that everyone take his comments with a sack of salt.......but in the ethnic communities, much power is held by the muslim leaders.

The Rochdale offenders groomed the girls...and as for white girl who sought out the prey for pakistani males to abuse.....it would be fair to say that she had also been 'groomed' to some degree,(though that doesn't absolve her from the crimes she committed against the girls).
According to a newspaper report, at least one of the girls in the sad Rochdale story was from a good family background...got in with the wrong crowd and was intimidated by threats against her family to continue with what the gang wanted from her...this was the girl who made the initial complaint which was ignored by The GMP until they got a new head of CPS(who happened to be muslim)...only then, was the complaint treated with the attention it should have received in the first place.

Before I retired, I worked in Women's health services for 25 years. I saw first hand how many(not all) muslim men treated women.

I know things that would turn you inside out.