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Old 14-06-2012, 06:33   #45
Margaret Pilkington
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Re: funny how democracey works for some and not others

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Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy View Post
Benefits:

1) Peace in Europe for the best part of 70 years.
2) Free movement of people which allows anyone in the EU to live/work in any other EU country.
3) Both of the above and free trade which, generally, have led to rise in living standards and a more prosperous Europe in the past 70 years and have meant that people are able to move to the Dordogne etc.

As for nullifying individualism and national identity. The UK is a good example of why this wouldn't happen. We are a United Kingdom but England, Wales, Scotland & N.Ireland (and regions there in) all have unique identities but have the same currency, no barriers to trade, free movement, parliamentary democracy, monarch, army etc, etc etc. Same with the USA.

Plus Westminster feels as distant as Brussels to me. For all the good a Westminster government has done for the North West and Lancashire we might as well be governed by Brussels.

The world has changed over the past 100 years. Due to immigration and emigration personal identity isn't about where you live but who you are.
I would get into this argument and challenge some of your concepts, but I fear it would be injurious to my health......and besides as G says....it doesn't amount to a hill of beans because we have yet to be asked.....and, more importantly be told that what we vote for will be acted on. Until then it is all academic.
But Toffe guy, if you love Europe so much, then there is nothing at all stopping you from moving to one of its countries. Greece would probably benefit from your expertise.
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