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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
The thing is Ken(and you know I am a moderate) none of us will know if, what the powers that be, tell us, is the truth, because, to be blunt they haven't got a clue how much it would cost to come out of this corrupt organisation.
Would you hitch your wagon to an organisation that hasn't had a budget audited and signed off as being true, for the last 16 years....16 years?!
Do you want to be ruled by laws that are made in Brussels(and made by unelected officials - officials who have no accountability to us, the electorate of GB)?
The EU was sold to the British public as a trade agreement, there was nothing political implied by joining way back then.
It has turned into something else, and along the way governments of the time have said they would give the electorate a referendum and it still has not happened!
The other thing that is galling, is that some member states seem to follow the edicts from Brussles very loosely - and some not at all....but Britain is slavish in its adherence to the rules.
It was an ill advised, poorly thought out concept. One size fits all doesn't work.......I said it way back then and it is being proved in front of my eyes.
Anyone who spoke out against the EEC back then was deemed to be shortsighted and xenophobic.........and lower class(because it was deemed that the lower classes couldn't understand how good this organisation would be for Britain). It was almost a kind of fascism.
I didn't want to be part of Europe then, and I don't want to be part of in now....and, if I were younger I would flee this country at the very first opportunity.
There......I've said my piece......now I'll go and have a cup of tea.( a panacea for all things).
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As always Marg, a perfectly level-headed reply that it's hard to pick fault with. However, we do loop back to my original point that even a straight In/Out vote would currently be based for a lot of people on what they think they know from the media and it's generally not a pretty picture.
I await the precise wording (or even the intended wording from the SNP's point of view) on the Scotland farrago. I'm not against that either but I suspect the WHOLE truth won't be told by either side and that's where it will fall down.
If referendums had a non-biased factsheet presenting everything that people really needed to know then I would be over the moon but as it stands we have to rely on the most charismatically-persuasive argument instead.
Dodgy ground and unlikely to change, I fear.