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garinda 08-05-2008 17:51

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By the way, I was told last week that soon the Co-op is too be halved in size, and the other half will be a separate concern.

Retlaw 08-05-2008 20:07

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What is wrong with a gun shop, guns are just a lump of metal and wood, its the idiots behind them that cause the trouble. Guns don't kill people.
People kill people with any thing they can put there hands on.

You cannot uninvent the gun, at least that shop is bound by the Firearms act, and acting within the law.

Its the unregistered firearms you should be bothered about.

People are too ready to accept the medias version of guns, theirs is to sell newspapers and have folks gawping at the tele, truth and facts don't come into it.

I have been around guns for nigh on 60 years, I taught my children to shoot and handle guns safely, so much so, they shamed other members of my club with their knowledge of the safety rules.

Retlaw


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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 271552)
By the way, there is a very dramatic picture of the gun shop on this site.

The Guns of Oswaldtwistle on Flickr - Photo Sharing!


garinda 08-05-2008 20:43

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 573502)
What is wrong with a gun shop, guns are just a lump of metal and wood, its the idiots behind them that cause the trouble. Guns don't kill people.
People kill people with any thing they can put there hands on.

You cannot uninvent the gun, at least that shop is bound by the Firearms act, and acting within the law.

Its the unregistered firearms you should be bothered about.

People are too ready to accept the medias version of guns, theirs is to sell newspapers and have folks gawping at the tele, truth and facts don't come into it.

I have been around guns for nigh on 60 years, I taught my children to shoot and handle guns safely, so much so, they shamed other members of my club with their knowledge of the safety rules.

Retlaw

In answer to your question, there's nothing wrong with gun shops.

It's the rather large, illuminated sign, sticking out into the road, advertising the fact, in what is supposedly a conservation area, that was the problem.;)

garinda 08-05-2008 20:47

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I think you've totally misunderstood people's concerns.

They were purely aesthetic.

Just my thoughts...so don't shoot the messenger.:D

Gayle 08-05-2008 21:13

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Yes it was only when it became more visible that I started to get bothered by it.

My objections are

1. it doesn't give a friendly impression for visitors - especially being so close to the theatre
2. it's promoting something which young impressionable children might think it glamorous (it's just opposite the bus stop for many of the Rhyddings School crowd)
3. it's an ugly sign in a conservation area


What's really, really annoying me now is that the shop itself has shut down but I spoke to the people at the council and the sign can't be removed. Once it's had planning permission the only person allowed to remove it is the person who has the permission i.e. the owner of the shop. This means that all the reasons that I listed above, which are mostly aesthetic as Garinda pointed out, can't be addressed because no one has powers to remove it.

cherokee 08-05-2008 21:52

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GAYLE.....Once it's had planning permission the only person allowed to remove it is the person who has the permission i.e. the owner of the shop.


Surely that cant apply if the shop is sold on ...can it ???

garinda 08-05-2008 22:04

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How it was granted planning permission in the first place is a mystery, in an area the council decided was a conservation area. Shops aren't even allowed to have roll-down security shutters outside their properties.

cashman 08-05-2008 22:46

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bung a chav a tenner if ya want the sign removing.:D simple as.

garinda 09-05-2008 00:00

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 573657)
bung a chav a tenner if ya want the sign removing.:D simple as.

For a minute there I thought you meant Chav1 had a gun, and was for hire.:eek::D

Gayle 09-05-2008 07:34

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 573614)
GAYLE.....Once it's had planning permission the only person allowed to remove it is the person who has the permission i.e. the owner of the shop.


Surely that cant apply if the shop is sold on ...can it ???


Yep, applies - the owner sells on the planning permission as well so only the owner can take it down even if it's a new owner. It's like if you buy a plot of land where planning permission has already been granted the Council can't take it away.

jaysay 09-05-2008 10:26

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 573700)
Yep, applies - the owner sells on the planning permission as well so only the owner can take it down even if it's a new owner. It's like if you buy a plot of land where planning permission has already been granted the Council can't take it away.

Interim Planning permission only has a shelf life of 5 years though, but as you say Gayle once full planning permission is grated it can't be taken away

cashman 09-05-2008 14:30

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 573671)
For a minute there I thought you meant Chav1 had a gun, and was for hire.:eek::D

never crossed me mind, but good idea, he'll do it fer a Fiver.:D;)

jaysay 09-05-2008 17:00

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 573905)
never crossed me mind, but good idea, he'll do it fer a Fiver.:D;)

Hum at that price I could pu some work his way cashy:rolleyes::D

emamum 09-05-2008 17:10

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 573905)
never crossed me mind, but good idea, he'll do it fer a Fiver.:D;)

hmm.....can anyone lend me and emzy a fiver :D

Gayle 12-05-2008 19:12

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 573405)
By the way, I was told last week that soon the Co-op is too be halved in size, and the other half will be a separate concern.

Yep, just been told the same thing but they didn't seem to know what the other half was going to be. You'd think they'd know.


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